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JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.01.11 12:21:00 -
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Edited by: JC Anderson on 11/01/2011 12:24:04
What you are doing is not griefing in my book.
There are certain situations where its hard to tell the difference though. Many merc corps will not take out contracts against specific individuals alone as that could be considered griefing. About a week ago in the C&P forums a GM replied to a thread where somebody was looking to hire mercs out against a single individual. The GM said that in that particular case, they in fact may consider it griefing despite the fact that they were being "hired" to do it.
Also, word for word from the EULA. It's pretty vague in all honesty. (Somebody posted a link to it above... But if your lazy, then here it is.)
Grief play
What is grief play?
Griefing
A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersĘ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities while he does not profit from it in any way. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players.
This should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two players. At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account.
An example of grief play would be the so called "Can baiting" in starter systems. An experienced player drops a cargo container with some items in front of a station in a starter system and waits for a new player to take from it. The new player is flagged and promptly attacked and killed by the owner of the container. Doing the same in starter tutorial complexes is also considered grief play and will not be tolerated.
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JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.01.11 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: JC Anderson on 11/01/2011 15:55:52
 Originally by: Azelor Delaria
Initially when we war decced the target corporation, the CEO of it promised to "stomp [us] into the dust". The target corporation then began a long, arduous campaign of making sure they were all docked when we wpould come by their home system of Kaaputenen, while spouting the usual carebear vitriol about how great they were at PvP in local while not actually undocking and proving it.
When I found the alt corporation, I made sure that I published in local that a war dec was being voted on for it. The next day, they came out, popped a few of our ships (they had neutral RR, we didn't), and then stayed docked.
Point was, we were able to do our job magnificently once we found them. :D
Then I say they are the offenders!
They get you all riled up for a fight and then end up using grief tactics by sitting in stations as you guys are forced into camping them day in and day out!
Well not really... But it would be nice if we could look at it from that angle. ;)
Originally by: Taedrin
Griefing is simply attempting to *INTENTIONALLY* cause another *SPECIFIC* person to be miserable in the game. No more, no less.
See? They are intentionally making your gameplay experience into a chore by sitting in stations and forcing you into a position of being miserable and bored!
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JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.01.11 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: JC Anderson on 11/01/2011 18:01:17
Originally by: Syn Callibri
...and you must have no clue what the difference between game mechanics and good decision making is..."just because you CAN do someting, doesn't mean that you SHOULD do it". You CAN leap headlong off of a 50 story building (without a parachute), but SHOULD you?
But.. we can have jet packs right? ;)
Anyhow...
A good portion of the war dec's are nothing more than a corp selecting other corps to fight for the hell of it. It is the case more often than not that the corp initiating the war dec knows absolutely nothing about the other corp outside of its name. Many will simply choose random corps based on member count.
Some choose corps larger than their own because they want a good fight. Some choose mid ground and some simply want to gank as many people as possible and prefer to dec smaller corps than their own. Of course it doesn't always work out this way due to individual skill levels of the pilots on both sides.
It's something that has always happened and something that people playing Eve need to accept. Your small industrial corp could very well be the next one to receive a dec from another corp out of something as simple as boredom.
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JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.01.12 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Forum Guy
I'm actually a purple 3 headed hydra, you won't believe the truth so you will probably believe that.
Aww man I bet you drop phat lewtz. <---(Is that proper leet speak terminology?)
Anyhow.... I forgot what the heck this thread is about. :/
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